malenki: Who's affiliate account is it? i created it and entered nak account data of the FOSSGIS *bank account since after asking on talk-de no one seemed to feel responsible thats the advantage of flat hierarchies :) Hmmmm. fossgis is the "incorporated society" managin all stuff for osm.de I know. Thinking. http://www.fossgis.de/projekte_osm.html Likely an email to talk-de@ + clear up the text to say the account is for FOSSGIS. it is no problem to add acces for you tto the account Reason for the email is to add a tracable history + searchable contact. http://www.fossgis.de/projekte_osm.html sais amongst others "is managing donations for OSM" i'd like to stick with "the money goes to OSM" since i don't know how much mappers not so familiar with the structures know what FOSSGIS is. one can add "the money is managed - like other donations - by FOSSGIS e.V." OSM.de a compromise? yeah, sure [...] But I would still like to see a public email linking &tag=opensde-21 to you and FOSSGIS. Something on talk-de@ just announcing it is likely best. Firefishy, that already exists... malenki: iandees can likely point you to someone. Firefishy, is this mail good enough: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2011-May/086144.html ? who am i pointing at? malenki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Merchandise&action=historysubmit&diff=641316&oldid=641236